I similarly came from a family in which my parents, who could not afford higher education when they were young, dreamed of sending their kids off to college. I did not disappoint--I not only went to college but stayed there a long time, eventually earning an MD and completing a residency in psychiatry. I also, coincidentally, married a doctor (I think my Mom was more excited about this than the fact that I was becoming a doctor myself!)
At the age of 58, I'm still figuring out all the ways I was brainwashed during my university years and trying to deprogram myself. My husband is going through a similar process. We talk about this a lot, tracing the intellectual roots of the sophistry (and outright lies) that influenced us so heavily when we were young.
Increasingly I am seeing the wisdom in the "common sense" approaches of my (uneducated but certainly not stupid) parents. As Orwell said, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”
When I was growing up my dad, a New York City policeman, told me go to college and get a degree so “you never have to be dependent on a man.” I became a nurse, I went to community college, the sign above the main office desk said “Nobody told me is not an excuse.” Times were different, and the lessons were: responsibility and independence. I began my career at the height of the AIDS epidemic. I had no fear (but the healthy kind). I married a non- college guy who is tremendously successful. I now teach nursing at a local university where my eldest is going. No woke shit in my classroom lol. My 2nd child just started at an IVY (her dream not mine and she worked her ass off to get there). Both my kids know they come home woke they’ll go broke paying for their own education (responsibility and independence). We sent them off awake, alert, and prepared! They understand the world they’re going into! Maybe it’s because of the COVID bullshit and how it affected their lives as well as seeing their mother get fired from a career at the bedside I loved! Some careers need college others don’t. I’m not anti college, I believe there is a way to navigate through the shark infested waters and come out unscathed and prepared for a workforce that still requires a college education for many professions. Our job as parents is to prepare our kids and supply them with plenty of shark repellent!!
Always refreshing to see such awareness expressed in the younger generations.
It appears that the work you are doing now is connected to the Allopathic system. Though it is criminal (in my opinion) that only 28 states in the US permit Naturopathic doctors and nurses to be licensed to practice medicine and teach patients how to achieve and maintain optimal health, are you permitted to explain the options to students who are seeking a career in a health profession?
Yes, I can explain any and all options available for nurses to practice in. In my old unit we had some holistic nurses who were able to provide alternative therapies to patients, especially for nausea and vomiting, relaxation/anxiety, and once we helped a woman to pee using peppermint oil! All good stuff! Again like college and the trades, both allopathic and naturopathic can be complimentary. We can find balance when we work together!
Our son is in college and studying Chinese and Japanese - been to both countries at this point, although will go longer in February to Japan. Had he chosen to work at home in something different, we would have supported that - because unless they really like what they are doing, they will usually go from job to job within a few weeks and we have work ethics we have exemplified and expect him to also follow. I believe that the lack of raising by parents plays a big part in how the child sees their exposure in college. Within a few months, our son called us and told us how much he appreciated our input into his life. He stated that most of his fellow students didn't have the relationship that he had with his parents, especially with exposure to the world and interpretation of that exposure. He's just now (3rd year) experiencing a "woke" teacher where most of the experience is how cultures are privileged and that other nations in the world are so much more "equal" regarding rights. He absolutely hates this class - but knows enough to stand his ground to a great extent and just get through it. Not every student is susceptible to the garbage they are putting out - but they ARE victims to the grades that are given, so "just get through" it. Thank God, he still calls and tells us what good parents we have been and how much he misses home and calmness. (One proud moment came when I gave him a mask to take to school "in case" and he pretty much threw it back at me and told me he'd take the throwing out of college if they mandated and enforced it - something he knows (scientifically) doesn't help with anything other than developing pneumonia or inhaling plastics).
I agree with mimi that they were doing this in the 80's when I was in school - what is missing is the direct input by the parents. They are too busy watching the Kardashians or The Bachelor or funny animal videos on their phones. (I do like those animal videos).
While I agree that most of us girls in the 60’s were in college bc it was the thing to do, & the side benefit was finding a husband who could/would provide for a family so mom could have the luxury of staying home to raise their children.
I never thought that the guys were looking for a trophy wife nor got that impression. I’m sure some were.
Hilda said, college guys “wanted to marry women who would be devoted to home and family while their husbands went into the working world to give their families a comfortable life.”
She says this was a boastful deal, & for some maybe so.
But to me these young men want to show their love & commitment to whomever they married by being the provider so she could be the nurturer.
What bothers me here is the insinuation that a woman who wants to get a college education (perhaps as insurance bc we know not what the future holds), but wants to “work” at home being a full time mother & (dare I say it) wife.
I’ve seen those lists describing just such a woman, & so spot on. Not for the faint hearted!
I once heard a seasoned woman of wisdom say “you can’t have it all at the same time & do it all well.” So true. The home is where it ALL begins. It’s been said a mother is the Holy Spirit of a home. She sets the tone.
God’s plan for a man & woman to leave & cleave is brilliant; then He said multiply. Voila! A nuclear family unit.
(Granted in a fallen world we have broken families, but that doesn’t mean an intact one can’t be the standard to attain if possible).
We women can choose courtship, marriage, children, higher education, career….. options galore.
Choosing home & being there for our husbands & children is noble. I see so many young woman torn between their outside jobs & their homes (read kids & husbands); they’re stressed to the max, no time to shop/prepare healthy meals (it’s McD’s again), running kids to batting coach lessons or extra cheer training, etc. No wonder Americans are huge consumers of anxiety meds.
In addition the feminist movement made stay-at-home moms feel like losers. I know bc I was one, feeling guilty bc I didn’t “work.” They pitted women against men. “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.”
So many young women fell into the radical feminist trap. They may have married; but they put their careers first. They climbed those corporate ladders & blasted those glass ceilings. They had the freedom to choose that path, & good for them. They succeeded.
Then something happened. Many became disillusioned & felt empty. All their recognition plaques & promotions didn’t satisfy a hidden longing. Children.
Their own children. They postponed that decision till later…& later. Then when one decided she wanted to start a family with her husband & have a baby to love & nurture, she discovers that age has affected her fertility.
I chased a rabbit here, but all to say please don’t downgrade women who choose home over career & men who want to provide adequately for their families. (Another rabbit to chase is 2-income households bc of ridiculous tax rate so we can ship $$$ to other countries)
Other than the part about us college girls & guys back then, etc. I agree w/ Hilda on all the rest!
Add in the ridiculously out of sight costs of college.
Your letter rang a bell with me. I was an associate degree RN at age 20, married at 21 and worked until our first son was born. My husband and I agreed I would stay home to be with our boys. It was the most fulfilling “job” I ever had. I took care of the home front and he provided for us. I stayed home until our youngest was in 3rd grade and then started teaching part time at a private college for health careers. I did that until my youngest was a junior in high school and then taught full time. Along the way I started taking classes toward my bachelor. At one time my 2 sons and I were all going to college together, and my grades were posted on the refrigerator alongside theirs. Eventually, I earned my masters and became an administrator of the college. The boys always came first. I never felt I was cheated by not having a career until my boys were college age. I had the best of both worlds!!
Yes, the college experience isn't what it once was. But it seems to me that the problem starts much earlier.
Even at the community college level, English 1A classes often require reading about "social justice" which means college kids often have to read the garbage you describe. (Alternatively, the classes require college kids to read pop psychology which is a different type of garbage).
But here's the thing. Colleges have been pushing that crap since at least the 1970s but, when I went to Berkeley in the late-1970s, plenty of the students realized that it was crap. A woman in my dorm described what she had to write about in her Asian American studies class (which was one of many classes at UCB that could be taken for "reading and composition" instead of English 1A). Another woman commented that the easy way to get an A in AAS was to write like a good Communist. And she did not intend that as a compliment!
These days it seems that college students are just willing to swallow whatever they are taught, even at the "elite" schools. Perhaps Berkeley in the 1970s was an exception for having students who questioned stuff, but I doubt that. Students are no longer taught to question anything in the earlier grades. If you don't learn to do it then, you won't do it when you get to college.
The events of the past three years have really made us re-assess the value of a college education. Now it's one thing if you're going to study something like Engineering (like I did). But if you're not going into Engineering school--or some other career path that requires a college degree--then you really wonder if other alternatives, such as trade school, would be a better choice. Especially for those of us who have refused the shots.
The university where I got my bachelor's degree--due to their vaccine mandate, I would not have been able to continue there as a student today, and I would have had to transfer to somewhere else to finish my degree. The university where I got my master's degree did NOT impose a vaccine mandate.
The way that some of these "prestigious" universities have been forcing the shots, it really makes you wonder how "prestigious" they really are cracked up to be. Especially if they force you to take a substance that could actually prevent you from being able to attend their school.
This is a very well-written piece. Everyone reading, also please check this youtube video just made available today 9/17/23: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnUXIw5WPMI&t=930s&ab_channel=ForbesBreakingNews. I was actually quite unaware until today that the current broad-sweeping social agenda that has been swirling around us stems from the 1960s.
I, too, formerly thought that a college education was a ticket to critical thinking and greater control in life because of the analytic thoughtfulness that would be a positive outcome for my 2 children, as it was for me at a once beloved "Seven Sisters." college. However in my own life since college in the 60s, Life taught me that even if one's grown up child was a National Merit Scholar graduating with highest honors from Yale that due to cleavage in the family (not from the school curriculum i the '90s but from the narcissism of post college therapist/cult leader in Berkeley whose sole axe to grind was 'deride and then shun your parents, especially your mother.'
It seems to me that far and away, the most damaging tide of social sabotage is that of cleaving apart the family, regardless of how it comes about (divorce, drugs, school curriculum et al....). My example is my
now estranged, supposedly highly educated son who evidently now is staunchly pro- all vaccinations. Shockingly even1600s on SATs doesn't necessarily lead to one's being compelled to review primary data on key issues for survival. A generation can be lost by sophisticated brainwashing at vulnerable times when family solidarity is missing. We must nurture our families and defend parental rights as just about the highest priority for our communities and country.
Most colleges and departments are driven by student credit hour production. The more credits a department/college produces the more they ensure their future. So it’s imperative to keep the classroom full by dumbing down the curriculum and inflating grades. When I taught I felt that about 1/3 of my students had the potential and interest to be in the classroom. The rest were struggling for a credential.
College costs too much and careers requiring a degree do not pay enough.
Academia is captured:
The behavioral and social studies departments by postmodernism; political and business schools are captured by neonliberalism banksters and neoconservatism banksters (same thing); university scientific research is captured by the capitalist titans of industries in pharmaceuticals, war profiteering, and security state control.
College can hurt a lot of people. Jordan Peterson, well know psychologist, on YouTube implies that a lot of people don’t belong there, simply because they don’t have the talent to make it work for them. An IQ below 120, is a bad omen. Even if an average person gets through college, the problem is that in the real world even that 120 IQ, is going to be cutting it very close.
Colleges used to qualify students objectively on the basis of how the candidates did on a SAT score. Nowadays colleges make all kinds of exceptions, letting people in ( to get their money ) and setting these kids up for failure.
It takes all types to run a society.
College grads should be a certain percentage of society.
There’s always going to be a need for people who know which way to turn a wrench.
Kids shouldn’t waste their time if they aren’t feeling it, and aren’t qualified.
Especially nowadays with tyrants pushing jabs and politically correct gobbledegook.
It is a matter of fight or flight, unfortunately. But just like how state law may not go your way, do you move to a state that seems more accommodating for the moment, or stay and fight for your home? Difficult questions, with each person in a different situation. I hope the college students start to get it. "No mandates. I choose." is the mantra they need to be following when it comes to medical freedom.
Like everything else under the "buy and sell" umbrella, "a college education" is little more than a debt-generating INDUSTRY, with limited exceptions, and even then, still debt-generating for the most part.
People pay and go into debt to be programmed into the satanic NWO agenda. Many, including now doctors and lawyers, then go into professions entirely dominated by the satanic Cabal.
And of course our teachers are "our most precious resource because they 'teach' our kids," while the reality of that narrative escapes most. But that's OK, we'll just sing the national anthem and thank the first responders for killing and tyrannizing us.
I similarly came from a family in which my parents, who could not afford higher education when they were young, dreamed of sending their kids off to college. I did not disappoint--I not only went to college but stayed there a long time, eventually earning an MD and completing a residency in psychiatry. I also, coincidentally, married a doctor (I think my Mom was more excited about this than the fact that I was becoming a doctor myself!)
At the age of 58, I'm still figuring out all the ways I was brainwashed during my university years and trying to deprogram myself. My husband is going through a similar process. We talk about this a lot, tracing the intellectual roots of the sophistry (and outright lies) that influenced us so heavily when we were young.
Increasingly I am seeing the wisdom in the "common sense" approaches of my (uneducated but certainly not stupid) parents. As Orwell said, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.”
When I was growing up my dad, a New York City policeman, told me go to college and get a degree so “you never have to be dependent on a man.” I became a nurse, I went to community college, the sign above the main office desk said “Nobody told me is not an excuse.” Times were different, and the lessons were: responsibility and independence. I began my career at the height of the AIDS epidemic. I had no fear (but the healthy kind). I married a non- college guy who is tremendously successful. I now teach nursing at a local university where my eldest is going. No woke shit in my classroom lol. My 2nd child just started at an IVY (her dream not mine and she worked her ass off to get there). Both my kids know they come home woke they’ll go broke paying for their own education (responsibility and independence). We sent them off awake, alert, and prepared! They understand the world they’re going into! Maybe it’s because of the COVID bullshit and how it affected their lives as well as seeing their mother get fired from a career at the bedside I loved! Some careers need college others don’t. I’m not anti college, I believe there is a way to navigate through the shark infested waters and come out unscathed and prepared for a workforce that still requires a college education for many professions. Our job as parents is to prepare our kids and supply them with plenty of shark repellent!!
Beautifully and succinctly said. Thank you.
Always refreshing to see such awareness expressed in the younger generations.
It appears that the work you are doing now is connected to the Allopathic system. Though it is criminal (in my opinion) that only 28 states in the US permit Naturopathic doctors and nurses to be licensed to practice medicine and teach patients how to achieve and maintain optimal health, are you permitted to explain the options to students who are seeking a career in a health profession?
Yes, I can explain any and all options available for nurses to practice in. In my old unit we had some holistic nurses who were able to provide alternative therapies to patients, especially for nausea and vomiting, relaxation/anxiety, and once we helped a woman to pee using peppermint oil! All good stuff! Again like college and the trades, both allopathic and naturopathic can be complimentary. We can find balance when we work together!
Thank you for your response.
Our son is in college and studying Chinese and Japanese - been to both countries at this point, although will go longer in February to Japan. Had he chosen to work at home in something different, we would have supported that - because unless they really like what they are doing, they will usually go from job to job within a few weeks and we have work ethics we have exemplified and expect him to also follow. I believe that the lack of raising by parents plays a big part in how the child sees their exposure in college. Within a few months, our son called us and told us how much he appreciated our input into his life. He stated that most of his fellow students didn't have the relationship that he had with his parents, especially with exposure to the world and interpretation of that exposure. He's just now (3rd year) experiencing a "woke" teacher where most of the experience is how cultures are privileged and that other nations in the world are so much more "equal" regarding rights. He absolutely hates this class - but knows enough to stand his ground to a great extent and just get through it. Not every student is susceptible to the garbage they are putting out - but they ARE victims to the grades that are given, so "just get through" it. Thank God, he still calls and tells us what good parents we have been and how much he misses home and calmness. (One proud moment came when I gave him a mask to take to school "in case" and he pretty much threw it back at me and told me he'd take the throwing out of college if they mandated and enforced it - something he knows (scientifically) doesn't help with anything other than developing pneumonia or inhaling plastics).
I agree with mimi that they were doing this in the 80's when I was in school - what is missing is the direct input by the parents. They are too busy watching the Kardashians or The Bachelor or funny animal videos on their phones. (I do like those animal videos).
Disclaimer: too long😉
While I agree that most of us girls in the 60’s were in college bc it was the thing to do, & the side benefit was finding a husband who could/would provide for a family so mom could have the luxury of staying home to raise their children.
I never thought that the guys were looking for a trophy wife nor got that impression. I’m sure some were.
Hilda said, college guys “wanted to marry women who would be devoted to home and family while their husbands went into the working world to give their families a comfortable life.”
She says this was a boastful deal, & for some maybe so.
But to me these young men want to show their love & commitment to whomever they married by being the provider so she could be the nurturer.
What bothers me here is the insinuation that a woman who wants to get a college education (perhaps as insurance bc we know not what the future holds), but wants to “work” at home being a full time mother & (dare I say it) wife.
I’ve seen those lists describing just such a woman, & so spot on. Not for the faint hearted!
I once heard a seasoned woman of wisdom say “you can’t have it all at the same time & do it all well.” So true. The home is where it ALL begins. It’s been said a mother is the Holy Spirit of a home. She sets the tone.
God’s plan for a man & woman to leave & cleave is brilliant; then He said multiply. Voila! A nuclear family unit.
(Granted in a fallen world we have broken families, but that doesn’t mean an intact one can’t be the standard to attain if possible).
We women can choose courtship, marriage, children, higher education, career….. options galore.
Choosing home & being there for our husbands & children is noble. I see so many young woman torn between their outside jobs & their homes (read kids & husbands); they’re stressed to the max, no time to shop/prepare healthy meals (it’s McD’s again), running kids to batting coach lessons or extra cheer training, etc. No wonder Americans are huge consumers of anxiety meds.
In addition the feminist movement made stay-at-home moms feel like losers. I know bc I was one, feeling guilty bc I didn’t “work.” They pitted women against men. “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.”
So many young women fell into the radical feminist trap. They may have married; but they put their careers first. They climbed those corporate ladders & blasted those glass ceilings. They had the freedom to choose that path, & good for them. They succeeded.
Then something happened. Many became disillusioned & felt empty. All their recognition plaques & promotions didn’t satisfy a hidden longing. Children.
Their own children. They postponed that decision till later…& later. Then when one decided she wanted to start a family with her husband & have a baby to love & nurture, she discovers that age has affected her fertility.
I chased a rabbit here, but all to say please don’t downgrade women who choose home over career & men who want to provide adequately for their families. (Another rabbit to chase is 2-income households bc of ridiculous tax rate so we can ship $$$ to other countries)
Other than the part about us college girls & guys back then, etc. I agree w/ Hilda on all the rest!
Add in the ridiculously out of sight costs of college.
Your letter rang a bell with me. I was an associate degree RN at age 20, married at 21 and worked until our first son was born. My husband and I agreed I would stay home to be with our boys. It was the most fulfilling “job” I ever had. I took care of the home front and he provided for us. I stayed home until our youngest was in 3rd grade and then started teaching part time at a private college for health careers. I did that until my youngest was a junior in high school and then taught full time. Along the way I started taking classes toward my bachelor. At one time my 2 sons and I were all going to college together, and my grades were posted on the refrigerator alongside theirs. Eventually, I earned my masters and became an administrator of the college. The boys always came first. I never felt I was cheated by not having a career until my boys were college age. I had the best of both worlds!!
Yes, the college experience isn't what it once was. But it seems to me that the problem starts much earlier.
Even at the community college level, English 1A classes often require reading about "social justice" which means college kids often have to read the garbage you describe. (Alternatively, the classes require college kids to read pop psychology which is a different type of garbage).
But here's the thing. Colleges have been pushing that crap since at least the 1970s but, when I went to Berkeley in the late-1970s, plenty of the students realized that it was crap. A woman in my dorm described what she had to write about in her Asian American studies class (which was one of many classes at UCB that could be taken for "reading and composition" instead of English 1A). Another woman commented that the easy way to get an A in AAS was to write like a good Communist. And she did not intend that as a compliment!
These days it seems that college students are just willing to swallow whatever they are taught, even at the "elite" schools. Perhaps Berkeley in the 1970s was an exception for having students who questioned stuff, but I doubt that. Students are no longer taught to question anything in the earlier grades. If you don't learn to do it then, you won't do it when you get to college.
The events of the past three years have really made us re-assess the value of a college education. Now it's one thing if you're going to study something like Engineering (like I did). But if you're not going into Engineering school--or some other career path that requires a college degree--then you really wonder if other alternatives, such as trade school, would be a better choice. Especially for those of us who have refused the shots.
The university where I got my bachelor's degree--due to their vaccine mandate, I would not have been able to continue there as a student today, and I would have had to transfer to somewhere else to finish my degree. The university where I got my master's degree did NOT impose a vaccine mandate.
The way that some of these "prestigious" universities have been forcing the shots, it really makes you wonder how "prestigious" they really are cracked up to be. Especially if they force you to take a substance that could actually prevent you from being able to attend their school.
This is a very well-written piece. Everyone reading, also please check this youtube video just made available today 9/17/23: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnUXIw5WPMI&t=930s&ab_channel=ForbesBreakingNews. I was actually quite unaware until today that the current broad-sweeping social agenda that has been swirling around us stems from the 1960s.
I, too, formerly thought that a college education was a ticket to critical thinking and greater control in life because of the analytic thoughtfulness that would be a positive outcome for my 2 children, as it was for me at a once beloved "Seven Sisters." college. However in my own life since college in the 60s, Life taught me that even if one's grown up child was a National Merit Scholar graduating with highest honors from Yale that due to cleavage in the family (not from the school curriculum i the '90s but from the narcissism of post college therapist/cult leader in Berkeley whose sole axe to grind was 'deride and then shun your parents, especially your mother.'
It seems to me that far and away, the most damaging tide of social sabotage is that of cleaving apart the family, regardless of how it comes about (divorce, drugs, school curriculum et al....). My example is my
now estranged, supposedly highly educated son who evidently now is staunchly pro- all vaccinations. Shockingly even1600s on SATs doesn't necessarily lead to one's being compelled to review primary data on key issues for survival. A generation can be lost by sophisticated brainwashing at vulnerable times when family solidarity is missing. We must nurture our families and defend parental rights as just about the highest priority for our communities and country.
These write ups should really just be about vaccine mandates. Twitter would be better suited for something like this persons piece.
Most colleges and departments are driven by student credit hour production. The more credits a department/college produces the more they ensure their future. So it’s imperative to keep the classroom full by dumbing down the curriculum and inflating grades. When I taught I felt that about 1/3 of my students had the potential and interest to be in the classroom. The rest were struggling for a credential.
College costs too much and careers requiring a degree do not pay enough.
Academia is captured:
The behavioral and social studies departments by postmodernism; political and business schools are captured by neonliberalism banksters and neoconservatism banksters (same thing); university scientific research is captured by the capitalist titans of industries in pharmaceuticals, war profiteering, and security state control.
The mandates are genocidal.
“Hell no, Don’t Go!”
Well said. Now to get both parents to agree.
College can hurt a lot of people. Jordan Peterson, well know psychologist, on YouTube implies that a lot of people don’t belong there, simply because they don’t have the talent to make it work for them. An IQ below 120, is a bad omen. Even if an average person gets through college, the problem is that in the real world even that 120 IQ, is going to be cutting it very close.
Colleges used to qualify students objectively on the basis of how the candidates did on a SAT score. Nowadays colleges make all kinds of exceptions, letting people in ( to get their money ) and setting these kids up for failure.
It takes all types to run a society.
College grads should be a certain percentage of society.
There’s always going to be a need for people who know which way to turn a wrench.
Kids shouldn’t waste their time if they aren’t feeling it, and aren’t qualified.
Especially nowadays with tyrants pushing jabs and politically correct gobbledegook.
It is a matter of fight or flight, unfortunately. But just like how state law may not go your way, do you move to a state that seems more accommodating for the moment, or stay and fight for your home? Difficult questions, with each person in a different situation. I hope the college students start to get it. "No mandates. I choose." is the mantra they need to be following when it comes to medical freedom.
Like everything else under the "buy and sell" umbrella, "a college education" is little more than a debt-generating INDUSTRY, with limited exceptions, and even then, still debt-generating for the most part.
People pay and go into debt to be programmed into the satanic NWO agenda. Many, including now doctors and lawyers, then go into professions entirely dominated by the satanic Cabal.
And of course our teachers are "our most precious resource because they 'teach' our kids," while the reality of that narrative escapes most. But that's OK, we'll just sing the national anthem and thank the first responders for killing and tyrannizing us.
Good times!!
Just sayin'.