The arrogance of these universities is shocking! The fact they refuse to consider the data re the student age group that they serve is truly disturbing.
These scripted responses from the universities are eerily similar, empty, and devoid of any responsibility or accountability for their actions. They clearly do not realize that some of us have done our homework and know their sources are nothing but tentacles of government and big pharma. Shame on them and may they be held accountable for the atrocities they are committing.
Yes, these are completely scripted. I can't even tell the difference from a similar letter I received from the Brown president when I complained earlier on about lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and bi-weekly testing, other than the replacement of "Philadelphia Department of Public Health" to "Providence Department of Public Health". Universities are supposed to be leading us to truth, not following some compromised pre-determined propaganda.
Very good response. I can’t wait for these pricks to get sued. Let’s see how Santa Clara University lawsuit plays out. Plus, I wonder who he’s beholden to. The Dean of Dartmouth’s business school promotes via webinar a J&J Board Member/WEF starling. The hubris is sickening.
Boston College's Father Penna, a Jesuit, denied all the religious exemptions saying Catholics cannot have a religious exemption. Just call him Father Pfizer! Several months later Father Pfizer and the Assistant to the President of Pfizer (an alum) jointly presented at the Boston College Wall Street Council dinner. Seems like a serious conflict of interest to me. In May 22 they gave this Pfizer exec an honorary degree. Hmm I wonder what Pfizer did for BC. All as the trial data shows there as been fraud in their trial. BC also had the President of Moderna speak to the their CEO roundtable in 22.
My daughter is about to start school there in 9 days. This "school" has put my daughter and I through HELL. I don't want her to even go there because they simply don't care about her SINCERE religious exemption request or her appeal, both were amazingly powerful, factual and sincere! BC said they grant sincere religious & medical
exemptions, but they DONT. They let you submit them, but don't grant them! They don't care about student's health as they claim to.. My daughter was forced to go against her conscience morally, compromise her values & was threatened with repeat emails to do so or lose all student status & access, even remotely, ALTHOUGH she has paid more then what is currently due already for her share of tuition & her financial aid was processed too. She realizes there are other great schools who don't accept students contingent on injection status. She would love to attend a school that respects her conscience and her health but feels she will be put on a college blacklist & won't get her refund & her Fafsa aid wouldn't allow transfer of aid $ to another school last minute. School hasn't begun so is changing schools & refunds allowed if it hasn't started yet? Also, she's had worrisome side effects from her 1st shot, next one due in Sept . I'm worried about her safety, but as well as her being disrespected & targeted for her appeal! She was discriminated religiously and bullied!
You can also join our Telegram group called No College Vaccine Mandates where you will find other BC parents who share very similar stories. The Jesuit schools have been the worst at accepting exemptions. There is a lawsuit against Santa Clara University for denying a medical exemption after a student was injured from her first shot, and then SCU called this student's personal doctor to get the medical exemption retracted! I am so sorry for all of this. Please know your daughter and your family are not alone, and we are fighting as hard as we can to end it all.
Omg I am so sorry. You have to get a medical exemption if she had a bad reaction. These people at BC are fanatical. In the end Boston college is going to pay a huge price. The fact that they falsely advertise that they accept re and then they deny them all- that could be the basis of a lawsuit.
If you hear of any lawsuits regarding BC mandates and denying exemptions, please let me know. My heart is broken, as I don't want my daughter getting her 2nd shot or attending a school that doesn't respect or care about her. They're using her for deceptive funding
There are a lot of us against the bC mandates. Reach out to the Facebook group. We can help you. Your daughters life is more important. These people will not help if she is injured. One kid already had an embollic stroke and BC said it has nothing to do with the booster.
Sadly I don’t expect more from Penn. I’ve a child who just graduated from Penn Med and the head of the med school droned on and on at graduation at how fortunate we all were to have masks and mRNA technology made possible in part by Penn and their commitment to Moderna. I love my child very much but I almost ran out of the auditorium screaming.
Stanford Medical School’s graduating class of 2022 [edited to correct the year --SM] all lined up for a group photo outside wearing masks. These misleaders will be loyal followers of the mask and vaccine pseudoscience and help lead the rest of us into bio fascist tyranny.
Yep. Penn Med inductees into the national medical honors society all posed in mandated masks for pics with their awards . The honored speakers asked the new inductees to be courageous leaders in their medical fields . As the speakers asked the Dean for permission to take off their masks before they spoke at the lectern I could not help but wonder in what way did they imagine they were modeling physician leadership and courage? The hypocrisy and cowardice are mind blowing.
Terrific response. My question would be is the University willing to assume all liability should this "mild myocarditis" cause health issues for these young men in the future? If they believe there are no issues from these vaccines, they should be willing to compensate these kids should this untested medication have any long-term effects.
I don't know whether they even need to assume liability. My understanding (although I'm not a lawyer) is that, because they mandated it, they are liable for the adverse events (I think even if it has EUA liability protection, which is for the manufacturers and pharmacists and other assorted criminals).
That was certainly true for employers until, I think July or August 2021, when OSHA reversed its usual policy because they didn't want to do anything that might decrease Convid jab rates. However, I don't know whether OSHA publishing a new policy on its website counts as sufficient to overturn normal policy or regulations. That said, I don't know whether there's any rule of law remaining.
As we know the Federal research money flows from Federal Agencies (NIH,CDC, FDA), which in turn take money from Pharma. The diktats coming from NIH etc., come with a heavy price to pay if you don't keep in line.
They always take the “we’re just following the guidance of Public Health and the CDC…” stance with zero scientific proof as to why their stance makes sense. The outright lies that post Covid Vax myocarditis is mild and resolves quickly is unbelievable!
Even if everything they say were true, these vaccines do not prevent infection or spread and since when do we EVER force prescribe something that could possibly reduce symptoms? This suggestion that they reduce symptoms can NOT be proven on an individual level and should ultimately be a medical choice between the patient & doctor.
Thank you for your very professional replies and for holding these universities accountable.
They're not just "following guidance", they are enforcing mandates from their local Dept.'s of health. Totally ignoring the fact that they aren't lawmaking bodies to begin with.
It appears that this Chief Wellness Officer has excelled in creative writing 110 —— perhaps it is time to find a person who can objectively evaluates data an makes an intelligent decision rather than one based on creativity and subjectively that seems to be motived by political mindset or follow the sheep mentality or just plain ignorance to the facts , the health and well being of our children. Totally unacceptable!!!! This person should be fired!
My family on my mother's side has genetic heart conditions. My grandfather, powerful man he was, had a weak ticker and I lost two cousins to heart failure before they hit 42..After my first cousin died in the 90s, the heart institute where I live ordered the entire family to come in for tests. Another round was recommended after his brother (yes, same family) passed away a few years back.
I still remember my talk with the cardiologist during my first test. She said, 'we take all heart conditions very seriously.'
The heart is the organ that drives life. Yet, here we have cardiologists claiming something serious like myocarditis can be 'mild'? Worse, that somehow the 'vaccine' is so safe it only induces the mild form and not the dangerous one we've all come to understand? Tickle me skeptical Nothing makes sense in this narrative.
And here are academics simply focusing on ONE side of the narrative without considering the overall impact on health for students while conducting an actual cost-benefit analysis. The bottom line is anyone under 60 who is healthy doesn't need to be coerced into an mRNA injection that is proving to be unsafe, ineffective and pointless.
Thank you. Such a great response. In addition, regarding Penn’s statement …It is our collective responsibility to implement guidance and requirements to help protect Penn, our faculty, staff, and our surrounding West Philadelphia/Philadelphia community members-
How does a vaccine mandate accomplish that goal since
(1) CDC’s Rochelle Walensky confirmed as early as July 2021 that the vaccines did not prevent infection or transmission? And further,
2. Among fully vaccinated populations (including colleges), outbreaks have been reported, confirming that vaccination did not offer community protection?
The first lines of his response is the most telling: "bla bla we relied in the (insert 3-letter agency) to provide guidance during the pandemic bla bla". The finger pointing begins. Don't be distracted by the posturing because every day is going to get worse for these souless creatures.
Hasn’t ANY research been conducted at thousands of universities mandating the shot? Some of it must contraindicate forcing kids to get it. Don’t they have any PhD statisticians who can do this analysis? Are their own researchers being muzzled?
Since 2020, I've contacted many experts and asked them to provide evidence for what they advised. The responses, let's just say, were underwhelming and concerning.
The truth is really that these colleges were "forced" to accept money to go along with the official misguided countermeasures because relying on actual facts was too risky for them.
nocollegemandates, thank you so much for the work you are doing! I have a college student who I’ve pleaded with to not get these poisonous jabs, & so far he’s agreed, but he’s tired of testing & has wanted to just comply out of convenience. I can’t believe the irresponsible & inept response by this official from University of Pennsylvania! He obviously does not know the facts regarding these injections, & he does not know the minimal risk of Covid for the college age bracket. Also, most people by now have either been infected or vaccinated..& the vaccines don’t work anyway! Additionally, myocarditis is anything but mild, & it has no quick resolution! These individuals have such damaged hearts, it could take years off their lives! And, who wants to be put on a lifelong medication for the condition anyway!?! And, how does this official NOT know that these regulatory agencies have been completely captured!?! This fraud & corruption is disgusting, & I only pray that things will turn around soon! Thank you, nocollegemandates for your efforts!
The arrogance of these universities is shocking! The fact they refuse to consider the data re the student age group that they serve is truly disturbing.
its all about govt $$$$
These scripted responses from the universities are eerily similar, empty, and devoid of any responsibility or accountability for their actions. They clearly do not realize that some of us have done our homework and know their sources are nothing but tentacles of government and big pharma. Shame on them and may they be held accountable for the atrocities they are committing.
Yes, these are completely scripted. I can't even tell the difference from a similar letter I received from the Brown president when I complained earlier on about lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and bi-weekly testing, other than the replacement of "Philadelphia Department of Public Health" to "Providence Department of Public Health". Universities are supposed to be leading us to truth, not following some compromised pre-determined propaganda.
Very good response. I can’t wait for these pricks to get sued. Let’s see how Santa Clara University lawsuit plays out. Plus, I wonder who he’s beholden to. The Dean of Dartmouth’s business school promotes via webinar a J&J Board Member/WEF starling. The hubris is sickening.
Boston College's Father Penna, a Jesuit, denied all the religious exemptions saying Catholics cannot have a religious exemption. Just call him Father Pfizer! Several months later Father Pfizer and the Assistant to the President of Pfizer (an alum) jointly presented at the Boston College Wall Street Council dinner. Seems like a serious conflict of interest to me. In May 22 they gave this Pfizer exec an honorary degree. Hmm I wonder what Pfizer did for BC. All as the trial data shows there as been fraud in their trial. BC also had the President of Moderna speak to the their CEO roundtable in 22.
My daughter is about to start school there in 9 days. This "school" has put my daughter and I through HELL. I don't want her to even go there because they simply don't care about her SINCERE religious exemption request or her appeal, both were amazingly powerful, factual and sincere! BC said they grant sincere religious & medical
exemptions, but they DONT. They let you submit them, but don't grant them! They don't care about student's health as they claim to.. My daughter was forced to go against her conscience morally, compromise her values & was threatened with repeat emails to do so or lose all student status & access, even remotely, ALTHOUGH she has paid more then what is currently due already for her share of tuition & her financial aid was processed too. She realizes there are other great schools who don't accept students contingent on injection status. She would love to attend a school that respects her conscience and her health but feels she will be put on a college blacklist & won't get her refund & her Fafsa aid wouldn't allow transfer of aid $ to another school last minute. School hasn't begun so is changing schools & refunds allowed if it hasn't started yet? Also, she's had worrisome side effects from her 1st shot, next one due in Sept . I'm worried about her safety, but as well as her being disrespected & targeted for her appeal! She was discriminated religiously and bullied!
You can also join our Telegram group called No College Vaccine Mandates where you will find other BC parents who share very similar stories. The Jesuit schools have been the worst at accepting exemptions. There is a lawsuit against Santa Clara University for denying a medical exemption after a student was injured from her first shot, and then SCU called this student's personal doctor to get the medical exemption retracted! I am so sorry for all of this. Please know your daughter and your family are not alone, and we are fighting as hard as we can to end it all.
Theres a medical freedom group on Facebook you should reach out to.
I need to know the name of the medical freedom group on FB in order to reach out to it or join it...
It’s Boston college parent for free speech and medical freedom!
Omg I am so sorry. You have to get a medical exemption if she had a bad reaction. These people at BC are fanatical. In the end Boston college is going to pay a huge price. The fact that they falsely advertise that they accept re and then they deny them all- that could be the basis of a lawsuit.
If you hear of any lawsuits regarding BC mandates and denying exemptions, please let me know. My heart is broken, as I don't want my daughter getting her 2nd shot or attending a school that doesn't respect or care about her. They're using her for deceptive funding
There are a lot of us against the bC mandates. Reach out to the Facebook group. We can help you. Your daughters life is more important. These people will not help if she is injured. One kid already had an embollic stroke and BC said it has nothing to do with the booster.
From what I heard BC denies medical exemptions too. Appalling.
Yes I read about that and the petition that followed. What's the name of the FB group/page?
Lawsuits will lead to better "listening" and policy changes.
Sadly I don’t expect more from Penn. I’ve a child who just graduated from Penn Med and the head of the med school droned on and on at graduation at how fortunate we all were to have masks and mRNA technology made possible in part by Penn and their commitment to Moderna. I love my child very much but I almost ran out of the auditorium screaming.
Stanford Medical School’s graduating class of 2022 [edited to correct the year --SM] all lined up for a group photo outside wearing masks. These misleaders will be loyal followers of the mask and vaccine pseudoscience and help lead the rest of us into bio fascist tyranny.
I am Stanford 1990 and ashamed of my alma mater.
Yep. Penn Med inductees into the national medical honors society all posed in mandated masks for pics with their awards . The honored speakers asked the new inductees to be courageous leaders in their medical fields . As the speakers asked the Dean for permission to take off their masks before they spoke at the lectern I could not help but wonder in what way did they imagine they were modeling physician leadership and courage? The hypocrisy and cowardice are mind blowing.
Terrific response. My question would be is the University willing to assume all liability should this "mild myocarditis" cause health issues for these young men in the future? If they believe there are no issues from these vaccines, they should be willing to compensate these kids should this untested medication have any long-term effects.
I don't know whether they even need to assume liability. My understanding (although I'm not a lawyer) is that, because they mandated it, they are liable for the adverse events (I think even if it has EUA liability protection, which is for the manufacturers and pharmacists and other assorted criminals).
That was certainly true for employers until, I think July or August 2021, when OSHA reversed its usual policy because they didn't want to do anything that might decrease Convid jab rates. However, I don't know whether OSHA publishing a new policy on its website counts as sufficient to overturn normal policy or regulations. That said, I don't know whether there's any rule of law remaining.
Until the financial ties & conflict of interests are addressed, the Universities will never acknowledge science and data, in my opinion.
UPenn holds the license for the Mrna technology used in Biontech and Pfizers vaccines.
https://www.pennmedicine.org/mrna
As we know the Federal research money flows from Federal Agencies (NIH,CDC, FDA), which in turn take money from Pharma. The diktats coming from NIH etc., come with a heavy price to pay if you don't keep in line.
The money is the problem.
They always take the “we’re just following the guidance of Public Health and the CDC…” stance with zero scientific proof as to why their stance makes sense. The outright lies that post Covid Vax myocarditis is mild and resolves quickly is unbelievable!
Even if everything they say were true, these vaccines do not prevent infection or spread and since when do we EVER force prescribe something that could possibly reduce symptoms? This suggestion that they reduce symptoms can NOT be proven on an individual level and should ultimately be a medical choice between the patient & doctor.
Thank you for your very professional replies and for holding these universities accountable.
They're not just "following guidance", they are enforcing mandates from their local Dept.'s of health. Totally ignoring the fact that they aren't lawmaking bodies to begin with.
It appears that this Chief Wellness Officer has excelled in creative writing 110 —— perhaps it is time to find a person who can objectively evaluates data an makes an intelligent decision rather than one based on creativity and subjectively that seems to be motived by political mindset or follow the sheep mentality or just plain ignorance to the facts , the health and well being of our children. Totally unacceptable!!!! This person should be fired!
This seems to be the scripted response from all these universities when you confront them.
Man, they really drank the spiked Kool-Aid.
My family on my mother's side has genetic heart conditions. My grandfather, powerful man he was, had a weak ticker and I lost two cousins to heart failure before they hit 42..After my first cousin died in the 90s, the heart institute where I live ordered the entire family to come in for tests. Another round was recommended after his brother (yes, same family) passed away a few years back.
I still remember my talk with the cardiologist during my first test. She said, 'we take all heart conditions very seriously.'
The heart is the organ that drives life. Yet, here we have cardiologists claiming something serious like myocarditis can be 'mild'? Worse, that somehow the 'vaccine' is so safe it only induces the mild form and not the dangerous one we've all come to understand? Tickle me skeptical Nothing makes sense in this narrative.
And here are academics simply focusing on ONE side of the narrative without considering the overall impact on health for students while conducting an actual cost-benefit analysis. The bottom line is anyone under 60 who is healthy doesn't need to be coerced into an mRNA injection that is proving to be unsafe, ineffective and pointless.
But boy is it making a lot of people rich.
How do these apparatchiks live with themselves ?
Thank you. Such a great response. In addition, regarding Penn’s statement …It is our collective responsibility to implement guidance and requirements to help protect Penn, our faculty, staff, and our surrounding West Philadelphia/Philadelphia community members-
How does a vaccine mandate accomplish that goal since
(1) CDC’s Rochelle Walensky confirmed as early as July 2021 that the vaccines did not prevent infection or transmission? And further,
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0730-mmwr-covid-19.html; and
2. Among fully vaccinated populations (including colleges), outbreaks have been reported, confirming that vaccination did not offer community protection?
https://covid.dartmouth.edu/august-5-2021-community-message
https://cacm.acm.org/news/257387-cornell-university-reports-more-than-900-covid-19-cases-this-week/fulltext
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X21003670
The first lines of his response is the most telling: "bla bla we relied in the (insert 3-letter agency) to provide guidance during the pandemic bla bla". The finger pointing begins. Don't be distracted by the posturing because every day is going to get worse for these souless creatures.
Hasn’t ANY research been conducted at thousands of universities mandating the shot? Some of it must contraindicate forcing kids to get it. Don’t they have any PhD statisticians who can do this analysis? Are their own researchers being muzzled?
Gods Justice Gods timing. Opening themselves up to this is CRAZY. Time will tel..
Despicable of them to respond with ZERO facts and only passing the buck with unsubstantiated conjecture. Same as Bam Bam's uni admin.
Since 2020, I've contacted many experts and asked them to provide evidence for what they advised. The responses, let's just say, were underwhelming and concerning.
The truth is really that these colleges were "forced" to accept money to go along with the official misguided countermeasures because relying on actual facts was too risky for them.
nocollegemandates, thank you so much for the work you are doing! I have a college student who I’ve pleaded with to not get these poisonous jabs, & so far he’s agreed, but he’s tired of testing & has wanted to just comply out of convenience. I can’t believe the irresponsible & inept response by this official from University of Pennsylvania! He obviously does not know the facts regarding these injections, & he does not know the minimal risk of Covid for the college age bracket. Also, most people by now have either been infected or vaccinated..& the vaccines don’t work anyway! Additionally, myocarditis is anything but mild, & it has no quick resolution! These individuals have such damaged hearts, it could take years off their lives! And, who wants to be put on a lifelong medication for the condition anyway!?! And, how does this official NOT know that these regulatory agencies have been completely captured!?! This fraud & corruption is disgusting, & I only pray that things will turn around soon! Thank you, nocollegemandates for your efforts!
Oh they know the regulatory agencies are captured. They just didn’t bank on the rest of us finding out about it.